Care Homes have nursing beds…. A Care Home near Cranleigh states that as well as residents’ rooms they have Nursing beds “For health issues that need the ongoing attention of nurses, we provide 24-hour personal specialised nursing care led by our own registered nurses chosen for their care compassion and experience.”
What has happened to CVHT’s planning application? When Cranleigh Society members met with your Waverley – 30 September – we asked about the progress of the planning application for the Care home with “community” beds plus the accommodation block for health related workers. The planning application is WA/2018/1966 . It was sent into Waverley last year and still has not been examined by Councillors – why? The people of Cranleigh and surroundings villages really need to know what is going on with the project.
Waverley explained “The planning application for the Care Home & Accommodation Block is presently being considered and is regarded as unacceptable in its present form. As a regular submission, it will be subject to the full range of policy requirements and planning obligations” –
We asked for clarification – WBC said The plans are being recommended for refusal because of many planning issues – access, parking, affordable housing…… So they are not ready to put it to Councillors yet.
It was agreed too that the Councillors – many of whom have little idea about the convoluted history so far – need to catch up and will need many things to be explained to them.
WBC councillors for Cranleigh West are – Cllrs Liz Townsend and Patricia Ellis. (for Cranleigh East it’s Richard Cole, Mary Foryszewski & Ruth Reed). Liz T is on the Joint Planning Committee and Patricia E is not, but can be called as a substitute and like anyone can request to speak at a JPC meeting. There is an expression – “call it in” which means that Councillors in a place (Ward) can ask for a public committee meeting – Joint Planing Committee (JPC) – to examine planning applications. Liz and Patricia would be representing the public of Cranleigh and villages, who raised so much money! if they were to call it in. But if the Officers explain that the application does not meet planning rules and regulations this might not happen – until the applicants provide further documents to make the application meet planning rules. OK so far?
Meanwhile – people in Cranleigh have been expressing their grave doubts about the morality of the scheme and about whether it would ever perform in the way envisaged and explained here – WBC planning application document provided by CVHT.
There are those who feel that a sum of money equal to that raised by the Charity should be found and given to the existing hospital somehow. The reasons include feeling that the money raised has been misused. Also that the proposed double building project is massive over -development of the Paddock especially now that there are so many other users on the same bit of road at Knowle Lane.
CVHT cannot publicly tell the public what is going on until the planning application has been viewed and passed, because they are in partnership with the business HC-One. This is seen as correct and reasonable apparently by WBC advisors.
In the meantime the NHS has reviewed its situation and decided that the A&E departments are over stretched by people who can walk in and need some minor injuries or illnesses looked at urgently. They want all of England to have Urgent Care Centres. You can read their report of 2017 here on NHS England’s web site. They say that our Clinical Commissioning Group must make decisions about where Urgent Care is sited by this Christmas. The press has recently reported that Haslemere Minor Injuries unit is not under threat of closure, and we understand it may be upgraded to an Urgent Care Centre. There are discreet differences – some problems can only be seen at the UCC. Urgent Care Centres have doctors present, Minor Injuries Units do not. If you have sickness & diarrhoea or a pregnancy related problem you need UCC.
To date the NHS has always said they would not support new local hospital beds in small places like Cranleigh. However the Royal Surrey stated recently that can’t handle any more A&E visits. Policy changes so often who knows what it will be next?
Did you know that in years past when Cranleigh Hospital was available to deal with sick and injured children and adults the service was not costing the NHS any extra? The nurses were there to look after people in the beds. The GPs were on call at the Practice so they popped into the hospital when called, for no extra charge to the NHS. So the NHS downgraded the services we could find in Cranleigh – but thanks to the League of Friends working tirelessly with the NHS some services are now in place in the old hospital – but no beds – ever.
A Guide to Funding the Cost of Care here
HC-One care homes link here
An HC-One care home states – “….Home Manager makes sure that all Residents receive the kindest possible care. Our extensively trained team will deliver all the nursing, specialist care and support services that your loved one requires. Personalised care plans consider not only medical, personal and dietary needs, but also the individual’s likes and dislikes, religious preferences, and suggestions from family members that might make their stay with us that little bit more enjoyable.”
If the planning application goes to the Joint Planning Committee (JPC) the Councillors will have to consider the Planning application, not the CVHT fund raising or the private nursing home company’s profits. The public can ask to speak at the meeting and can watch it on line on the day.
The next JPC is on 27th November at 6:30 in the Godalming WBC offices. The Agenda has not yet been publicised.
If you want to see the latest at the NHS decision making machine try here Guildford & Waverley Clinical Commissioning Group
Cranleigh Village Hospital has a new Xray machine and will be officially opened
Friday 24 May 11.30 to 1.
Cranleigh Village Hospital League of Friends donated money to Royal Surrey County Hospital and they have together made this possible.
Social meet up from 6.30 Monday 13th May at The Three Horseshoes Pub
We’ve had Brexit divisions, local elections, and now European elections – Has anyone out there got the energy to work on preserving and recreating Cranleigh as a lovely place to live, work and play? Come and meet up with a few of us this Monday – several of our helpers and followers have gone on holiday – but we will still meet up.
Cranleigh Parish Council (CPC) have held a robust planning meeting with representatives from Crest Nicholson – Horsham Road developments – and CVHT, including Tetlow King planning consultants. The minutes can be viewed on CPC web site for planning committee 15th April. It makes interesting reading – and 2 CVHT representatives were there and offered some replies to important queries – there’s a lot there – have a look if it’s your interest – it’s like Brexit though – some people are so against it all and some really want it done! We don’t have a standpoint – since we were heavily involved in fund raising and backed off when it all changed so much! If it goes ahead Knowle Lane will not receive a roundabout but a cross roads between Knowle Lane, Berkeley homes and HC One & CVHT site and more traffic calming measures at Marks & Spencers & John Wiskar Drive entrance.
Waverley Borough Council (WBC) – as you know there are new councillors and although the Conservatives are the majority they are outnumbered by the others put together. This may be because of the enormous amount of planning applications that have gone through – do you think so?
Cranleigh Society has looked into the planning situation at the moment on Waverley’s planning portal – there’s a road application to do with Dunsfold’s development, it will go along the line of the runway straight out onto the A281 and be lined with trees – “SO/2019/0005 30/04/2019 Request for Screening Opinion.
IN OTHER NEWS
We visited the Police representatives at the Parish council office along with many others of the public. We had a list of worries – good to know they have arrested people regarding the spate of car crimes recently – great. They don’t know of much in the way of other problems. They are based in Godalming these days! We found the 2 Officers helpful and friendly – determined to improve policing around our area, and to interact positively with school children too. We have one Sergeant and 6 Police Community Support Officers (PCSO) for our area, so they have their work cut out. What can we do to help them we asked – Report crimes and suspicious activities with evidence wherever possible and quickly – time, place, what you saw or experienced – use the on line report system and/or phone 101 https://www.surrey.police.uk/ro/report/ocr/af/how-to-report-a-crime/. We told them that we feel less safe to walk around these days, especially at night and around the fields, and they say they need help to identify what is going on, but we will be seeing the PCSOs around more. They say we are safe – very low crime rate! They are improving links with other areas but the “INTEL” is already very good they say. The highest crimes are around cyber crimes including banking and related fraud – so be aware! By the way, they work closely with Waverley and their multi agency community safety officers and Joint Action Group…. is it working? What do you think?
What is a PCSO? A recruitment page says “Police Community Support Officers have a vital and unique role within communities; providing a visible uniformed presence, helping the police to tackle anti-social behavior and providing reassurance to the public as well as working to understand their local issues. You will additionally have policing powers to enable you to bring to justice those who seek to disrupt or bring harm to all that live, work or travel through our county”. Ours are well thought of as working well to diffuse problems and keep an eye on bad behaviours……
SPEEDING – we have been asked to publish worries about increased speeding around town – and to see if there is anything we can do about it! Your ideas are needed!
Some people experience difficulties with getting their prescriptions – what is underlying the problem do you think? Let us know. Maybe we can help.
We have checked Waverley’s Planning Lists for this week.
The one item which is of interest is related to the proposed Knowle Lane Care Home.
An amended application has been submitted showing a change to the vehicular entry, omitting the proposed roundabout and substituting a simple crossroads.
There is an accompanying study which indicates that the revised junction is safe.
We think the changes look acceptable and will be visually less urban than the previous proposal.
There is a speed table included between the new entry and the access to Sainsbury’s so this should restrict the speed of vehicles using Knowle Lane between these points.
Please note that Cranleigh Parish Council are holding an extraordinary meeting on 11 April to discuss this revised Care Home Application as well as the Financial Times article on asbestos water pipes. We hope to attend this meeting, anyone can attend!
Spring has sprung! Lots to report – please read on…..
Cranleigh Society Social meetings – Monday 11th March From 6.30 at Three Horseshoes pub – remember you can order food if you would like to – some of us do. And please remember we need your support and ideas.
COMMUNITY! If you belong to another group in Cranleigh please contribute to our cause – are you a member of a Resident Association, or similar – then we would like to hear from you!
This Week – Cranleigh Parish Council needs you!
Village Hall on Wednesday evening 7pm to discuss the hospital project CVHT hostel for health workers & HC-One private care home plus 20 NHS & SCC beds
Village Hall on Thursday all day and early evening to discuss Cranleigh’s Plan – Cranleigh Neighbourhood Plan. It has been written, we have to respond then it goes to an inspector, then we have to vote! And only after that all succeeds can Cranleigh be better off regarding planning permissions because it has an Adopted Plan!
Meetings with Waverley Councillors & Officers continue
Cranleigh Civic Society and Waverley Borough Council Officers and Borough & Parish Councillors met up to discuss concerns and prompt ACTIONS.
They urge the community to communicate strongly either to Cranleigh Parish Council or Waverley Borough Council or any group such as Cranleigh Civic Society so that your voices can be heard. In turn they weigh up all the responses and in the context of the law and their own strategies.
The topics and questions covered are the key questions you all ask us. The responses are in some cases detailed and satisfactory and in others we must continue to try to get improvements and changes.
Waverley is working hard – to reduce costs and confusion, and reduce the problems they have to deal with – by communicating better and responding where possible in helpful ways.
Community Recycling Centres – Waverley agree that if these services close to save Surrey County Council money, WBC will have to pay for the removal of fly tipped matter – so please everyone write to Cllr Andrew Povey and explain your ideas about what to do. He is leading a task force and has asked for everyone’s suggestions/evidence to keep the CRC open e.g. levy our Parish precept as we do to ensure the toilets stay open? email: firstname.lastname@example.org
Most of you will most likely have seen and signed this petition to keep our recycling centre open (it’s had a brief stay of execution but it’s days are numbered) but if not please do! Unless of course you don’t mind having to schlep over to Witley or the other side of Guildford at the weekend to dispose of any waste… Click on link, share with friends. It takes 5 secs. https://petitions.surreycc.gov.uk/CranleighCRC/
Drinking Water pipes – please report problems and bursts to Cranleigh Parish Council so that they can continue to press Thames Water to sort them out, They need replacing whether or not there is a health risk associated with bursts (blue asbestos fibres). We are hoping that someone in authority can help the World Health Authority to set up a new world wide investigation into the use of asbestos cement fresh water pipes. Come to the flood forum 22nd March for more – we will have microphones and a PA system – details below.
A comment about our water pipes has been found reminding us of the complicated nature of it all – “The National Water Council spent 4 years and a lot of money trying to develop a method of resin lining asbestos cement pipes to slow down exfoliation, but in the end they gave up as no one could come up with a reliable, lasting installation method. Some of the pipe manufacturers sprayed the insides of their pipes with bitumen, but the NWC tested that and found it didn’t last long so they never endorsed it”.
Flooding – it’s essential that you report flooding to Cranleigh Parish Council so that they can press Waverley BC and all other bodies that keep the house buildings going on. Photos with dates and times are essential please.
Cranleigh Leisure Centre – Waverley have paid for outside expert advice and consulted with Cranleigh Parish councillors who in turn say they have their “ears to the ground” and know what people want. Waverley must now decide what to do next but it’s delicate because the Leisure centre is run by an outside business and they have the right to be dealt with in private.
Planning permissions – if you can’t find out how to tell Waverley how you feel about planning permissions please contact the Clerk at Cranleigh Parish Council for the reference number and details. All PPs go to our Parish councils as soon as they are made. Glebelands school sports pitch has long since been assumed to be given up for a new Cranleigh Primary school – but there are problems….. Cranleigh School – private – has withdrawn its application to build 40 houses opposite Notcutts. The housing along Elmbridge Road is being built – watch and report! HC-One Care home with 20 hospital beds for the community, and CVHT’s hostel are both being looked at by Waverley at the moment – see above item about the meeting this week.
The future of sport in Cranleigh – Waverley have a department that works on providing sports facilities. They state that Cranleigh school – PRIVATE – was never involved in the building planning permission levy – Section106 money for a new all weather pitch in Cranleigh. Something is being considered if and when there is planning permission for Surrey County Council to build on Glebelands sports field (it has been reported that this field is unused because is floods).
Lost income from levying builders – S106 & CIL – it’s complicated! Let’s just say it’s all a matter of delicate decision making to make sure houses are built and money comes in for small projects – not major roads etc. The CIL – COMMUNITY INFRASTRUCTURE LEVY – can be used after March 1st 2019. but at the discretion of the council. When S106 or CIL money becomes available is a complicated matter…… we have been explained to and we have a spreadsheet if you are interested.
Trees and Hedgerows – Waverley says that trees impact is part of the planning balance required by national policy. We say Waverley’s strategy must be strengthened. Do you have photos and details of destruction or better of protection needed?
Planning conditions – must be undertaken – if you believe some builder is breaching conditions or don’t know what conditions have been put in place then contact – email@example.com. Victoria Choularton is the Enforcement Team Leader on 01483 523008.
Communications – The Waverley Borough Council officers say their team always welcomes feedback on what can be improved and what works well – any suggestions can be sent to: firstname.lastname@example.org. In the mean time people are welcome to sign up to the existing newsletters on the council’s website: www.waverley.gov.uk/newsletters.
Some of Waverley’s processes and methods are being upgraded thanks to pressure from the public including Cranleigh Civic Society. Meeting up with Waverley regularly is clearly very important.
If you would like more details – join us when you can – 2nd Monday in each Month – at the Three Horseshoes Pub any time from 6.30pm, 11th March.
MP ANNE MILTON’s FLOOD FORUM FRIDAY 22nd MARCH 10.30 BAND ROOM – we will have MICROPHONES and a PA System. This meeting will include preparation leaflets to help participants understand who is on the panel, the language and the issues. We have borrowed the Lions PA system – thank you Lions – so let’s get a good crowd going – bring evidence of what is wrong.
CRANLEIGH’S RIVERS & STREAMS – message from Glen at Surrey Wildlife Trust
A history of poor management and pollution has left the Cranleigh Waters a shadow of its former self so Surrey Wildlife Trust are working with the Cranleigh community on a 3 year project, funded by Thames Water, to improve the health of the river. Understanding the issues is key to restoration so in 2018 volunteers were trained to monitor river health by sampling invertebrates on the river bed whose presence can tell us how clean the water is as well as pin point pollution and habitat issues. Monitoring is done in pairs and involves taking a 3 minute kick sample with a net to collect invertebrates such as mayflies. The invertebrates are then counted and the score can tell us what sort of state the river is in. By taking a snap shot of the catchment using this method we can focus our efforts to maximise our impact. Later in the Summer there will be a number of volunteer restoration days installing habitat in to the stream to create opportunities for wildlife and kick start natural processes. A rivers workshop will also be held in the summer to present the findings of all the investigations to the community and look at next steps.