Cranleigh Society update

Cranleigh Society update

1st February 2020 and all is well…….  let’s put our energies into things that really matter now rather than worrying about the National and International political landscape – it’s out of our hands for now.

Our councils are settling into their roles now, and the declaration of a climate emergency by the 3 councils that affect us means things will change.  For them to reduce their carbon footprints they have to look into all they do.  This might include not sending contractors all over the area to fix and maintain things such as our verges and commons.  They might decide to have less meetings where they need light and heat!  who knows?  They are certainly looking into the best uses for all buildings and also at the gas boilers throughout the borough.

If you are interested in keeping up to date with what Cranleigh Parish Councillors and staff are doing – the Clerk Beverley keeps a good record in the minutes of meetings and the messages on the web site.  You can access all this here – we attend some of the meetings and recently were pleased to see 2 police attend too.  The Friday Night project at the Leisure centre was discussed – they would benefit from a couple more volunteers – anyone interested in interacting with youngsters aged 11-15? Plenty of youngsters benefit from having the club and they are pretty well behaved too.  The Council are installing public toilets at Snoxhall Pavilion which should be good news for all who use the area.  Did you ever read the latest version of Cranleigh’s Neighbourhood Plan – see their web site.

Waverley Borough councillors are finding all sorts of financial problems associated with the planning applications that have been passed.  Also they seem to prefer to be cautious about giving planning permissions – great for the environment, but we do wonder where their next £s will come from if not from the builders! They have slowed down on efforts to rebuild Cranleigh leisure centre – which has had to net the cladding as it had become a danger.  The car park was cordoned off while the work was completed last week. If the activities of our Borough council interest you have a look here

As you will no doubt realise the services provided to us all are divided between the 3 councils and Surrey County Council is responsible for the major aspects of our lives such as the removal of rubbish and recycling, rebuilding and maintaining schools, and roads and so on.  Our County Councillor is Andrew Povey – – and he is looking into improving Cranleigh High Street – there is a small pot of money from the developers – we don’t yet know what can be afforded and what will benefit Cranleigh the most.  The project to build Cranleigh a new Primary School has stalled at the moment – we are watching SCC meetings to try to see what they will do next. You can look up for yourselves here

Looking forwards there continue to be – very slow – moves afoot to clean and clear and reshape our local watercourses and  rivers to improve natural habitats and to ease potential flood waters. Surrey Wildlife Trust has very few people and very little money but they are great people with big ideas.   How has your winter been so far?  Any flooding?  If so please do record dates and depths and tell Cranleigh Parish Council – or us. Cranleigh cemetery certainly has problems that CPC are hoping to address soon.  We don’t have any updates about Thames Water’s management of our fresh water supplies and sewage removal.  We have yet to talk to our new MP Angela Richardson, about the Flood Forums too.   The Wey & Arun Canal trust are working very hard – there’s very few of them and little money – but the aims to reopen sections of the canals are fabulous as it all helps with wildlife as well as providing for humans to enjoy nature.  There is a special event 23-25 May we hope to support.  Do check out their web site here

We continue to meet and monitor all we can – Facebook forums and Twitter too – If you are keen to get involved in promoting Cranleigh as a great place to live, work and play, please get in touch, and also join us at our Monthly socials – these take place at The Three Horsehoes pub, by the obelisk, on the 2nd Wednesdays each month, from 6:30 pm.  Good pub food is available, some come and go early, some later – do join in and get to know us, tell us about you and how we can defend our village against problems, improve it and make it simply the best.



We also meet Monthly at one of our houses – 24th Feb, 1st April.

We hope you enjoyed reading this post – please do add your comments!  We read them.

Wednesday 12th Feb, The Three Horseshoes Pub Cranleigh Society Social

9th Sept from 6:30 Three Horseshoes pub

Cranleigh Society invites you to pop along and chat about Cranleigh and any concerns on Monday 9th Sept any time from 6:30 pm at The Three Horseshoes Pub which is opposite St Nicolas Church and next to the Esso garage.

The pub sells food so some people buy their dinner and chat over important issues as well as having social chats.

We look forward to seeing you and and hearing how the summer has been for you


Cranleigh Society team


Wednesday 12th Feb, The Three Horseshoes Pub Cranleigh Society Social

8th July, Three Horseshoes Pub, Cranleigh Society Social

Come Along!  from 6.30 Monday 8th July at our friendly Local Three Horseshoes pub.

Tell us what you are worried about or happy with in Cranleigh at the moment.

We get to the pub around 6.30 and some of us have a meal there but people don’t have to!

We know that there are plenty of issues to get involved in but there are only a few of us so please help us to do the work and share the stories.

We are trying to keep up with Surrey County Council, Waverley Borough Council, Cranleigh Parish Council and all the actions that the developers are taking.

hope to see you there,


Has anyone got the “umph”?

Has anyone got the “umph”?

Social meet up from 6.30 Monday 13th May at The Three Horseshoes Pub

We’ve had Brexit divisions, local elections, and now European elections – Has anyone out there got the energy to work on preserving and recreating Cranleigh as a lovely place to live, work and play?  Come and meet up with a few of us this Monday – several of our helpers and followers have gone on holiday – but we will still meet up.


Cranleigh Parish Council (CPC) have held a robust planning meeting with representatives from Crest Nicholson – Horsham Road developments – and CVHT, including Tetlow King planning consultants. The minutes can be viewed on CPC web site for planning committee 15th April. It makes interesting reading – and 2 CVHT representatives were there and offered some replies to important queries – there’s a lot there – have a look if it’s your interest – it’s like Brexit though – some people are so against it all and some really want it done!  We don’t have a standpoint – since we were heavily involved in fund raising and backed off when it all changed so much!  If it goes ahead Knowle Lane will not receive a roundabout but a cross roads between Knowle Lane, Berkeley homes and HC One & CVHT site  and more traffic calming measures at Marks & Spencers & John Wiskar Drive entrance.

Waverley Borough Council (WBC) – as you know there are new councillors and although the Conservatives are the majority they are outnumbered by the others put together.  This may be because of the enormous amount of planning applications that have gone through – do you think so?

Cranleigh Society has looked into the planning situation at the moment on Waverley’s planning portal – there’s a road application to do with Dunsfold’s development, it will go along the line of the runway straight out onto the A281 and be lined with trees – SO/2019/0005 30/04/2019  Request for Screening Opinion.


We visited the Police representatives at the Parish council office along with many others of the public. We had a list of worries – good to know they have arrested people regarding the spate of car crimes recently – great.  They don’t know of much in the way of other problems.  They are based in Godalming these days! We found the 2 Officers helpful and friendly – determined to improve policing around our area, and to interact positively with school children too. We have one Sergeant and 6 Police Community Support Officers (PCSO) for our area, so they have their work cut out.  What can we do to help them we asked –  Report crimes and suspicious activities with evidence wherever possible and quickly – time, place, what you saw or experienced – use the on line report system and/or phone 101  We told them that we feel less safe to walk around these days, especially at night and around the fields,  and they say they need help to identify what is going on, but we will be seeing the PCSOs around more.  They say we are safe – very low crime rate!  They are improving links with other areas but the “INTEL” is already very good they say.  The highest crimes are around cyber crimes including banking and related fraud – so be aware! By the way, they work closely with Waverley and their multi agency community safety officers and Joint Action Group….  is it working?  What do you think?

What is a PCSO? A recruitment page says “Police Community Support Officers have a vital and unique role within communities; providing a visible uniformed presence, helping the police to tackle anti-social behavior and providing reassurance to the public as well as working to understand their local issues. You will additionally have policing powers to enable you to bring to justice those who seek to disrupt or bring harm to all that live, work or travel through our county”.  Ours are well thought of as working well to diffuse problems and keep an eye on bad behaviours……

SPEEDING – we have been asked to publish worries about increased speeding around town – and to see if there is anything we can do about it!  Your ideas are needed!

Some people experience difficulties with getting their prescriptions – what is underlying the problem do you think?  Let us know. Maybe we can help.


The Future of the Downslink

The Future of the Downslink

Members of the Cranleigh Society attended a meeting on 30 April 2015 at the Parish Council Offices in Cranleigh called by Surrey County Councillor Alan Young, together with Paul Millin, Surrey County Council Group Manager for Travel and Transport, Bob Bayley Vice President of the Cranleigh Chamber of Commerce and Kenneth Mitchell representing the Neighbourhood Plan.

Paul Millin is responsible for local bus services, home to school transport, transport for adult social care, road safety , speed cameras and railways. He has worked for a number of years on viability studies for reopening the railway line between Cranleigh and Guildford; copies of these reports are now available at the Cranleigh Parish Council Offices. Mr Millin confirmed that previously the Cranleigh railway line had not operated at a profit.

Re-opening of the Cranleigh Railway Line

The original Guildford to Horsham via Cranleigh line was opened in 1865 and was a single track railway with passing places. The line was never very profitable and the 1963 ‘Reshaping of
British Railways’ report
indicated a flow of under 5,000 passengers per week. As a result the Guildford to Cranleigh line was closed in 1965. Since that time population in the area has grown considerably and this justified investigation into its re-opening.

In 1994 Surrey County Council were investigating infrastructure deficits in the area and this included commissioning a report from Colin Buchanan and Partners looking into the reopening of the railway line from Guildford to Horsham line via Cranleigh. It was concluded that there would not be enough people using the line to operate at a profit and also that there were too many physical structures; bridges and tunnels, which would be too costly to reinstate. The cost of reinstating the line just between Guildford and Cranleigh was projected at £24 million which would include the base, civil, electrical, engineering and signalling works. However it did not include land acquisition costs, legal costs and bridge works.

in 1996 British Rail projects carried out a further study to reopen the line and calculated the costs at between £11 to 14M, which was less than the previous estimate by Colin Buchanan in 1994. This was based on a rail service of one or two trains per hour. As part of the study they sent out questionnaires to local residents and from these it was estimated that only 12% of journeys were made to Guildford or London, with the remaining 88% being made to other parts of Surrey. The questionnaires also forcasted a reluctance on the part of car users to use this method of transport. The study concluded that the line would require substantial public sector investment which could not be justified and the business case for re-opening the line was negative.

In 2009 the Association of Train Operating Companies (ATOC) called for the Cranleigh Line to be reopened from Guildford to Bramley and Cranleigh as part of a number of additions to the existing rail network proposed in the Connecting Communities report. ATOC in its report estimated the cost would be approx £63 million. Waverley Borough Council Environment and Leisure Overview and Scrutiny Committee (ELOS) agreed to review the ATOC report. During this review ATOC confirmed that the “study has only established that a route is physically possible, and a detailed feasibility study would be required to ensure that the best route were chosen and to confirm that there was a good business case”. ATOC also acknowledged that the final cost could be closer to £100M.

ELOS concluded that a further feasibility study would involve significant cost and no authority had funding to carry it out. There were also significant concerns raised over the ability to provide a rail link together with a replacement footpath and bridle path alongside on the Downslink without significant environmental impacts or re-routing. There were also a number of engineering obstacles to the proposal, in particular the location of new stations at Bramley and Cranleigh.

The reopening of the line was looked at again recently in 2013, as part of Surrey County Council’s rail strategy and was still not considered to be viable.

Extract Surrey County Council REport 2013 reopening Cranleigh Railway

Paul Millin in the meeting pointed out that the the environmental constraints to the reinstatement included a history of flooding in the area, the fact that the majority of the route is in green belt and width constraints at particular points. Consideration must also be given to the detrimental effect of noise, vibration and visual impact on local residents and property adjacent to the Downslink.

The Downslink is protected as a public bridleway and footpath and this must be accommodated alongside any transport solution, which also must include high safety fencing to prevent animals and pedestrians from straying onto any tracks.

Paul Millin confirmed that there are currently plans to remodel Guildford station, which delivers benefits to a far wider number of people, and this does not involve the reinstatement of the Cranleigh line.

A Guided Bus on the Cranleigh Downslink

There have been recent discussions regarding the provision of a guided bus service on the downslink. Guided buses are normal buses that can travel along the public highway but also have guide wheels attached to the side of the bus that engage with high vertical kerbs and keep the bus centralised on the track, which means that they can travel at high speeds. Passengers get on and off the bus at platform areas along the guided bus line.

Guided Bus Cambridge

guided bus side wheels

Mr Bob Bayley outlined his 2 year study at a starting cost of £25M although at present he confirmed that no investigation had been carried out regarding projected numbers of users of the service and it’s ongoing viability. This project would be funded by pooling developers contributions from significant housing estates in Cranleigh and would, it was proposed, also service the high housing numbers (up to 5,000 dwellings) being discussed for Dunsfold.

The proposal included a large car parking behind Lashmere in Cranleigh to accommodate passengers cars. The bus would start at Stockland Square on the road and then be guided by way of concrete kerbs onto the Downslink. It would cross the main A281 at Shalford by way of a suggested level crossing. The impact on traffic on the A281 of this level crossing has not yet been investigated.

Paul Millin confirmed in a letter to Anne Milton MP on 9 February 2015 that:

“even at the upper range of new housing. It is not clear that any potential increase in demand/patronage would be sufficient to make reopening the Guildford-Cranleigh link for rail or as a bus ‘guideway’ economically justifiable.” He also estimated the cost of the guided bus at “several tens of £millions”. Finally he concluded that “spending taxpayers’ money on revisiting earlier work seems of little value.”

view from guided bus travelling along rails

The current Cranleigh proposal is based on a model in Cambridge which suffered hugely from rising costs, with the final bill running into £161M and more recently problems with the concrete guide rails. You can read a chronological account on the No Guided Bus website.

We will keep you informed of any further developments.